CONGRESS | 15TH DISTRICT | The great government shutdown of 2013 lasted 16 days. While the Tea Party wing of the Republican Party obstructed the budget process in a bid to scuttle Obamacare, federal employees went without a paycheck last October. Over half of the House of Representatives, including the East Bay’s Rep. Eric Swalwell, pledged solidarity to government workers and said they would refuse their own paychecks until a new spending bill was approved.
However, KTVU reported Wednesday, Swalwell was actually paid roughly $4,700 earned during the shutdown, despite an attempt a day before the impasse to express sympathy for public workers. Conversely, South Bay Rep. Mike Honda did not make such a claim, reasoning he was still earning his pay while working for a resolution to the contentious budget fight.
In a letter sent last Sept. 30 to the Office of Chief Administrative Officer, Swalwell said, “I believe it is simply wrong and unfair for me to receive my salary while Americans working hard across the country as part of our federal workforce receive nothing until this appropriations crisis is resolved. Therefore, I ask that until federal employees who must work during a federal government shutdown are paid, I not be given my paycheck.”
According to the report other local politicians claimed to have donated their salary to charity. However, Swalwell is not one of the wealthiest members of Congress and may not be able to afford such philanthropy. In fact, upon election to Congress in January 2013, Swalwell, 34, told the San Francisco Chronicle he would maintain a roommate in both the Washington, D.C. area and Dublin.
Was the letter and pledge to withhold his salary simply a publicity stunt? Likely, since according to the 27th Amendment, congressional pay cannot vary. Swalwell even acknowledges it in his letter, saying, “However, it is my understanding that I, as a Member of Congress, will continue to receive a paycheck.” Meanwhile, it was incumbent on Swalwell to either give it back his pay to the U.S. Treasury or donate it to a charity of his choice. Instead, it went straight to personal bank account.
ebcitizen.com 
Go through this stream of posts and you will see most of the extremists, swearing, sexist remarks have been from Swallwell supporters, and that's why many of us will be supporting Ellen in 2014. Plus many of us feel that we need more women in Congress because of the stubbornness of both sides. Women seem to be able to compromise more and work toward solutions instead of calling people names.
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Mrs. Miller and I will be supporting our outstanding CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL. We can't support novices who have no idea what they are doing and would be in above their head. We also would never support anyone who whores for the unions. The public knows that teachers and nurses' unions are nothing but whores for the special interests. They resonate with special interests only.
We'll be supporting a breath of fresh air, CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL 2014!
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March 12, 2014 at 12:30 PM Reply
Shame on Swalwell for cutting off benefits for 1.7 million Americans. The extension of federal benefits was started by Bush and continued by both parties when the unemployment rate was this high.
It's about real people, people with families struggling to meet mortgage payments, struggling to put food on the table, to make ends meet, and includes 200,000 military veterans among those folk who are losing their benefits.
This is why my friends and I will be voting for Ellen Corbett this year….she has a heart and cares about the 90% of us who aren't rich too. Shame on Swalwell.
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March 12, 2014 at 12:30 PM Reply
Shame on Swalwell for cutting off benefits for 1.7 million Americans. The extension of federal benefits was started by Bush and continued by both parties when the unemployment rate was this high.
It's about real people, people with families struggling to meet mortgage payments, struggling to put food on the table, to make ends meet, and includes 200,000 military veterans among those folk who are losing their benefits.
This is why my friends and I will be voting for Ellen Corbett this year….she has a heart and cares about the 90% of us who aren't rich too. Shame on Swalwell.
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Ellen Corbett is a professional politician. She has not served her constituents well from her office in Sacramento. I wonder how she would be successful in serving her constituents from far away DC. You folks need to ask why she is interested in Swalwel and why is it she does not say what she would do or what she has done while in Sacramento. I expect her to experience the lives that her constituents lead everyday. Travel BART, take the highway into the city during rush hour, stand in line at the grocery store, go and stand i n line at the DMV. Is it her stand that we should vote for her because Swalwell accepted his salary after having publicly stated that he did not want to be paid. If that is the criteria we should use then why her? Why not vote for other candidates who are also contesting that seat.
I didn't vote for Swalwel. But I got invited and attended 3 of his townhalls. I was very impressed with the respect he showed his constituents, his knowledge of issues. He has converted me and I am going to vote for him this time. I am impressed by his left and right of center politics instead of the hard core divisiveness in Congress.
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Look—-you voted for Pete Stark because he was your Lord and Savior; you loved him. I DON'T like Whorbett better than CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL because she can't be trusted, is supported by the union whores, shill developers, and mega-pharma. This is just the final straw. Vote CONGRESSMAN ERIC SWALWELL to keep a good, clean, industrious congressman in the House. He's the only honest Rep. we have.
Oh yeah!
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Look—-I voted for Swalwell because he ran against Stark whom I didn't like. I DO like Ellen better than Swalwell because I can't trust him. This is just the final straw. Vote Ellen Corbett to get rid of our current flip-flopper who pretends to be Honest.
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Shame on Swalwell for cutting off benefits for 1.7 million Americans. The extension of federal benefits was started by Bush and continued by both parties when the unemployment rate was this high.
It's about real people, people with families struggling to meet mortgage payments, struggling to put food on the table, to make ends meet, and includes 200,000 military veterans among those folk who are losing their benefits.
This is why my friends and I will be voting for Ellen Corbett this year….she has a heart and cares about the 90% of us who aren't rich too. Shame on Swalwell.
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It seems to be you 7:57????
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Time to play everyone's favorite game: Who da bitch?
We know all too well who da bitch is!
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This is why Ellen Corbett will win:
1) The letter Steven Tavares cited has a press release form Swalwell's Office saying; “Rep. Swalwell Refuses Paycheck During Shutdown until Working Federal Employees are Paid”
2) In the same press release there is Swalwell himself saying “in the event of a shutdown, I will refuse my paycheck until federal employees who must work during the shutdown are paid.”
3) Citing a a letter Swalwell wrote to the congress: “In the event of a federal government shutdown, hundreds of thousands of federal employees will be furloughed. Others, who are deemed to perform essential services, will be forced to work. Despite the fact that these latter employers have to work, they will not receive paychecks during the period of a government shutdown. However, it is my understanding that I, as a Member of Congress, will continue to receive a paycheck.
I believe it is simply wrong and unfair for me to receive my salary while Americans working hard across the country as part of our federal workforce receive nothing until this appropriations crisis is resolved. Therefore, I ask that until federal employees who must work during a federal government shutdown are paid, I not be given my paycheck.”
3 counts of lying to the public in one day. You really disappointed me Congressman
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The president supports our congressman, which is more than good enough for us. Oh yeah!
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Nice try staffer but no cigar. It's another legislative mulligan by Eric Swalwell, the deceiver. As the article above points out, another lie and another mistake. Keep the stories coming Steven. I'd like to see one about the million dollars he's raised by catering to vested interests. I know he got money from pharmaceutical companies and other corporations that are sticking it to the middle class. Ellen Corbett is more trustworthy.
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Ellen Corbett is a professional politician. She has not served her constituents well from her office in Sacramento. I wonder how she would be successful in serving her constituents from far away DC. You folks need to ask why she is interested in Swalwel and why is it she does not say what she would do or what she has done while in Sacramento. I expect her to experience the lives that her constituents lead everyday. Travel BART, take the highway into the city during rush hour, stand in line at the grocery store, go and stand i n line at the DMV. Is it her stand that we should vote for her because Swalwell accepted his salary after having publicly stated that he did not want to be paid. If that is the criteria we should use then why her? Why not vote for other candidates who are also contesting that seat.
I didn't vote for Swalwel. But I got invited and attended 3 of his townhalls. I was very impressed with the respect he showed his constituents, his knowledge of issues. He has converted me and I am going to vote for him this time. I am impressed by his left and right of center politics instead of the hard core divisiveness in Congress.
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This is why Ellen Corbett will win:
1) The letter Steven Tavares cited has a press release form Swalwell's Office saying; “Rep. Swalwell Refuses Paycheck During Shutdown until Working Federal Employees are Paid”
2) In the same press release there is Swalwell himself saying “in the event of a shutdown, I will refuse my paycheck until federal employees who must work during the shutdown are paid.”
3) Citing a a letter Swalwell wrote to the congress: “In the event of a federal government shutdown, hundreds of thousands of federal employees will be furloughed. Others, who are deemed to perform essential services, will be forced to work. Despite the fact that these latter employers have to work, they will not receive paychecks during the period of a government shutdown. However, it is my understanding that I, as a Member of Congress, will continue to receive a paycheck.
I believe it is simply wrong and unfair for me to receive my salary while Americans working hard across the country as part of our federal workforce receive nothing until this appropriations crisis is resolved. Therefore, I ask that until federal employees who must work during a federal government shutdown are paid, I not be given my paycheck.”
3 counts of lying to the public in one day. You really disappointed me Congressman
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Nice try staffer but no cigar. It's another legislative mulligan by Eric Swalwell, the deceiver. As the article above points out, another lie and another mistake. Keep the stories coming Steven. I'd like to see one about the million dollars he's raised by catering to vested interests. I know he got money from pharmaceutical companies and other corporations that are sticking it to the middle class. Ellen Corbett is more trustworthy.
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1) The letter Steven Tavares cited has a press release form Swalwell's Office saying; “Rep. Swalwell Refuses Paycheck During Shutdown until Working Federal Employees are Paid”
2) In the same press release there is Swalwell himself saying “in the event of a shutdown, I will refuse my paycheck until federal employees who must work during the shutdown are paid.”
3) Citing a a letter Swalwell wrote to the congress: “In the event of a federal government shutdown, hundreds of thousands of federal employees will be furloughed. Others, who are deemed to perform essential services, will be forced to work. Despite the fact that these latter employers have to work, they will not receive paychecks during the period of a government shutdown. However, it is my understanding that I, as a Member of Congress, will continue to receive a paycheck.
I believe it is simply wrong and unfair for me to receive my salary while Americans working hard across the country as part of our federal workforce receive nothing until this appropriations crisis is resolved. Therefore, I ask that until federal employees who must work during a federal government shutdown are paid, I not be given my paycheck.”
3 counts of lying to the public in one day. You really disappointed me Congressman
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Ellen Corbett is a professional politician. She has not served her constituents well from her office in Sacramento. I wonder how she would be successful in serving her constituents from far away DC. You folks need to ask why she is interested in Swalwel and why is it she does not say what she would do or what she has done while in Sacramento. I expect her to experience the lives that her constituents lead everyday. Travel BART, take the highway into the city during rush hour, stand in line at the grocery store, go and stand i n line at the DMV. Is it her stand that we should vote for her because Swalwell accepted his salary after having publicly stated that he did not want to be paid. If that is the criteria we should use then why her? Why not vote for other candidates who are also contesting that seat.
I didn't vote for Swalwel. But I got invited and attended 3 of his townhalls. I was very impressed with the respect he showed his constituents, his knowledge of issues. He has converted me and I am going to vote for him this time. I am impressed by his left and right of center politics instead of the hard core divisiveness in Congress.
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Ellen Corbett has a good chance of beating Swalwell because of this, and the fact that she is extremely popular.
Shame on Swalwell for cutting off benefits for 1.7 million Americans. The extension of federal benefits was started by Bush and continued by both parties when the unemployment rate was this high.
It's about real people, people with families struggling to meet mortgage payments, struggling to put food on the table, to make ends meet, and includes 200,000 military veterans among those folk who are losing their benefits.
Then he lies and says he won't take his pay, but does anyway.
This is why my friends and I will be voting for Ellen Corbett this year….she has a heart and cares about the 90% of us who aren't rich too.
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Ellen Corbett is a professional politician. She has not served her constituents well from her office in Sacramento. I wonder how she would be successful in serving her constituents from far away DC. You folks need to ask why she is interested in Swalwel and why is it she does not say what she would do or what she has done while in Sacramento. I expect her to experience the lives that her constituents lead everyday. Travel BART, take the highway into the city during rush hour, stand in line at the grocery store, go and stand i n line at the DMV. Is it her stand that we should vote for her because Swalwell accepted his salary after having publicly stated that he did not want to be paid. If that is the criteria we should use then why her? Why not vote for other candidates who are also contesting that seat.
I didn't vote for Swalwel. But I got invited and attended 3 of his townhalls. I was very impressed with the respect he showed his constituents, his knowledge of issues. He has converted me and I am going to vote for him this time. I am impressed by his left and right of center politics instead of the hard core divisiveness in Congress.
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10:22 – interesting that Corbett supporters are now copying and pasting duplication messages that are pro-swalwell in hopes that Tavares' spam program erases both. Talk about anti- free speech. Have they no shame?
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Ellen Corbett didn't attend several meetings while she was Assembly woman and she made sure she took the pay. Check her attendance record, it made the news. She also used tax payers money for the car she was driving, that was a news story too. If she wanted to run for Congress she should have a had the brains to run against Stark. She knew Stark was loosing it and being rude and disrespectful to his constituents. She did nothing as Mayor of San Leandro, but buy expensive office furniture. Corbett's time if up, she's been dormant too long. It's bye, bye Ellen!
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Wow 4:55, you posted the exact same thing 3 days ago at 4:57. You really are a kiss ass staffer, but at least you are not posting during work hours which would be against the law. Oh wait, some of your posts on this and other articles have been during work hours, wasting taxpayer money.
It matters what Swalwell did when he voted to cut off benefits to 1.7 million Americans just before the holiday season. 200,000 military veterans were also affected. What an a–hole! He had the gall to try and defend his actions by saying he was doing the right thing.
Barbara lee did the right thing and stood up to the leadership and voted against cutting off those benefits. We need more women who seem to care more about the middle and lower class. That's why I'll be voting for Ellen Corbett.
I have a friend and her family that was affected by the decision of this current heartless congressman and they will probably lose their home.
Vote Ellen Corbett in 2014 because Swalwell doesn't deserve our vote after what he did to those who lost their job through no fault of their own.
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These Corbett supporters who comment about how Swalwell cut unemployment benefits are plain wrong in two ways. First, he did not vote to cut benefits because the benefits were not in the budget due to the republicans not allowing it to be inserted into the budget.
Second, if you imply he should have voted against the budget to make a statement like BLee and therefore he is not progressive – and therefore vote for Corbett – you might want to check Corbett's record. Likewise due to Republican blocks – Corbett voted for state budgets that eliminated dental and eye care for the poor, cut more than $2 billion in medi-Cal health insurance for the poor, voted on numerous budgets that increased tuition for college students raising tuition over the past 6 years – five fold, voted on budgets that cut $3.5 Billion from CalWorks for the working poor to receive child care, ability to attend college for working poor, and she voted on budgets that have eliminated more than $145 million for health insurance for poor families.
So before you attack Swalwell – know your history or herstory – neither one of them wanted to see these cuts but the Republicans used their power to make them happen by shutting down government or holding the budget hostage at the federal and state level.
Point being – don't take a blog report or comment to heart without digging deeper.
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Shame on Swalwell for cutting off benefits for 1.7 million Americans. The extension of federal benefits was started by Bush and continued by both parties when the unemployment rate was this high.
It's about real people, people with families struggling to meet mortgage payments, struggling to put food on the table, to make ends meet, and includes 200,000 military veterans among those folk who are losing their benefits.
This is why my friends and I will be voting for Ellen Corbett this year….she has a heart and cares about the 90% of us who aren't rich too. Shame on Swalwell.
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2:18 You and Swalwell, your mistake prone flip-flopping boss, will soon be out of a job after this year. Ellen Corbett will be our next Congresswoman. There is no defense for lying. You and Swalwell will find that out soon enough.
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Ellen Corbett didn't attend several meetings while she was Assembly woman and she made sure she took the pay. Check her attendance record, it made the news. She also used tax payers money for the car she was driving, that was a news story too. If she wanted to run for Congress she should have a had the brains to run against Stark. She knew Stark was loosing it and being rude and disrespectful to his constituents. She did nothing as Mayor of San Leandro, but buy expensive office furniture. Corbett's time if up, she's been dormant too long. Bye Ellen
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Many of the posts on this string are from the same Swalwell staffer who has posted on this blog many times. His style is very easy to identify. The fact is Swalwell LIED or deliberately intended to mislead. My wife and I will not vote for him again. It will be Ellen this time. Keep posting the truth Taveres, no one else has the courage to do so.
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Character matters and it seems none of our representatives have any. We get and deserve what we get. What a mess. Imposter after imposter gets in office and then goes with the flow. Corbett is nothing exceptional and Swalwell will turn out the same.
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Moreover, Ellen Corbett supported the lawsuit to receive backpay after the legislature failed to pass an on-time budget in 2011 and Controller John Chiang suspended legislators' salaries in accordance with Proposition 25.
Talk about spitting in the eyes of voters!
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These Corbett supporters who comment about how Swalwell cut unemployment benefits are plain wrong in two ways. First, he did not vote to cut benefits because the benefits were not in the budget due to the republicans not allowing it to be inserted into the budget.
Second, if you imply he should have voted against the budget to make a statement like BLee and therefore he is not progressive – and therefore vote for Corbett – you might want to check Corbett's record. Likewise due to Republican blocks – Corbett voted for state budgets that eliminated dental and eye care for the poor, cut more than $2 billion in medi-Cal health insurance for the poor, voted on numerous budgets that increased tuition for college students raising tuition over the past 6 years – five fold, voted on budgets that cut $3.5 Billion from CalWorks for the working poor to receive child care, ability to attend college for working poor, and she voted on budgets that have eliminated more than $145 million for health insurance for poor families.
So before you attack Swalwell – know your history or herstory – neither one of them wanted to see these cuts but the Republicans used their power to make them happen by shutting down government or holding the budget hostage at the federal and state level.
Point being – don't take a blog report or comment to heart without digging deeper.
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Ellen Corbett didn't attend several meetings while she was Assembly woman and she made sure she took the pay. Check her attendance record, it made the news. She also used tax payers money for the car she was driving, that was a news story too. If she wanted to run for Congress she should have a had the brains to run against Stark. She knew Stark was loosing it and being rude and disrespectful to his constituents. She did nothing as Mayor of San Leandro, but buy expensive office furniture. Corbett's time if up, she's been dormant too long. Bye Ellen
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Anon 12:03 the reason you provided for voting is that you do not like the incumbent and hence you vote for the unknown without knowing that candidates history is not kosher. In fact it is silly. Looks like you are blowing hot air for Ellen and not truly expressing your opinion on the issue. Paid volunteer eh!!!
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Look—-I voted for Swalwell because he ran against Stark whom I didn't like. I DO like Ellen better than Swalwell because I can't trust him. This is just the final straw. Vote Ellen Corbett to get rid of our current flip-flopper who pretends to be Honest.
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Everyone knows Swalwell staffers post on this blog. You can tell when they use the phrase “Cue the inevitable Swalwell staffer comments” Both 11:00 and the first 11:04 are the same staffer and have used those same lines on other posts.
Instead of getting mad at honest reporting by the Citizen, you should be pissed off at your boss for being so deceiving. Hope You are all out of a job after the election. You all lie like your boss. He trained you well.
Ellen Corbett is much more trustworthy than the heartless congressman you work for!
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Just another lie from the flip flopping Congressman. Can't wait to vote him out of office. He's making it easier to win for Ellen Corbett. This Swalwell is a disaster, making mistake after mistake. Give the money back like you said you would you bullshitter. Don't pretend you care. If you cared you wouldn't have cut off benefits for 1.7 million middle and lower class Americans including 200,000 veterans. Vote Ellen Corbett in 2014. She cares about those of us who are hurting!
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I get that Corbett, like Steve Tavares, needs a paying job. However, this job is already being carried out quite well. Both need to look to craigslist to find employment they are qualified for. Cue the inevitable “Swalwell staffer comments”
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Nobody cares. Tavares once again “reports” a tempest in a teapot. P..S. Repeating what other journalists dig up, does not make you one.
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Hey folks read what he said. He did not tell the Govt. that is going to refuse the pay. He just expressed an opinion that it is not right to get paid. Besides, others may have given to charity. He didn't because he is like most of us, not that rich. Ellen needs to retire. Looks like she has made it a profession. We do not need professional politicians.
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RE: 4:50pm
He said this “I believe it is simply wrong and unfair for me to receive my salary while Americans working hard across the country as part of our federal workforce receive nothing” AND HE STILL TOOK THE MONEY WRONG IS WRONG WHETHER ON THE LEFT OR RIGHT
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RE:2:53pm
I dont know that KTVU does junk reporting. Tavares got this 2nd hand. And, its time more people know what kind of a fraud the man you support is.
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Fortney will make the lemonade. Corbett will bake cookies.
Together these do-nothings will sit in their rockers and lament about how life passed them by, as it should be.
Hey folks read what he said. He did not tell the Govt. that is going to refuse the pay. He just expressed an opinion that it is not right to get paid. Besides, others may have given to charity. He didn't because he is like most of us, not that rich. Ellen needs to retire. Looks like she has made it a profession. We do not need professional politicians.
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Swalwell keeps making mistake after mistake. Lying and cutting off benefits is just the latest goofs. He seems to try and take both sides of every issue and has disgusted this former supporter. Eric you're toast. I'm now supporting someone I don't always agree with, but can trust. Ellen Corbett you have my vote.
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Definitely a Swalwell staffer or troll posting above. You shouldn't be attacking Tavares, you should be attacking your lying congressman!
Shame on Swalwell for cutting off benefits for 1.7 million Americans. The extension of federal benefits was started by Bush and continued by both parties when the unemployment rate was this high.
It's about real people, people with families struggling to meet mortgage payments, struggling to put food on the table, to make ends meet, and includes 200,000 military veterans among those folk who are losing their benefits.
This is why my friends and I will be voting for Ellen Corbett this year….she has a heart and cares about the 90% of us who aren't rich too.
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You folks are thoughtless, full of propaganda and are a fan of FOX News it looks like. Congressman Swalwell has achieved a lot. He went from being a city level office holder to holding a national level office. He is not yet polluted by politics as Corbett is due to her long stint in Sacramento. Her Sacramento experience has taught her how she needs to safeguard her interest in keeping her seat instead of keeping the interests of the people at heart. After 12 years in Sacramento it is time she heeds to the call of term limits; term limits from politics where she becomes an ordinary citizen and watches the show from outside like we all do. I am very happy with our Congressman's performance and so are the majority. Right now, we need him because he has demonstrated that he can work with both the parties, a rarity in DC.
Time to turn attention to Tavares and his junk reporting. Instead of the junk he has reported, he could do all of us a favor by researching and reporting our Congressman's performance record. Find out if in the past two years if he has been just a bench warmer or how much of what he said he would do during his campaign is what he did.
So Tavares, clean up your reporting. Be objective and not report junk.
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Stark was crazy, but here are three reason I know Swalwell is a fraud:
1) The letter Steven Tavares cited has a press release form Swalwell's Office saying; “Rep. Swalwell Refuses Paycheck During Shutdown until Working Federal Employees are Paid”
2) In the same press release there is Swalwell himself saying “in the event of a shutdown, I will refuse my paycheck until federal employees who must work during the shutdown are paid.”
3) Citing a a letter Swalwell wrote to the congress: “In the event of a federal government shutdown, hundreds of thousands of federal employees will be furloughed. Others, who are deemed to perform essential services, will be forced to work. Despite the fact that these latter employers have to work, they will not receive paychecks during the period of a government shutdown. However, it is my understanding that I, as a Member of Congress, will continue to receive a paycheck.
I believe it is simply wrong and unfair for me to receive my salary while Americans working hard across the country as part of our federal workforce receive nothing until this appropriations crisis is resolved. Therefore, I ask that until federal employees who must work during a federal government shutdown are paid, I not be given my paycheck.”
3 counts of lying to the public in one day. You really disappointed me Congressman
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Swalwell is slimy and two-faced. Let's vote him out!
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This letter is classic Eric. Taking both sides of the issue. He says he will refuse pay and then say he won't accept payment until workers receive theirs. Which is it?
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Wow, another legislative mulligan by the deceiver. Keep the stories coming Steven. I'd like to see one about the million dollars he's raised by catering to vested interests. I know he got money from pharmaceutical companies and other corporations that are sticking it to the middle class.
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Hey folks read what he said. He did not tell the Govt. that is going to refuse the pay. He just expressed an opinion that it is not right to get paid. Besides, others may have given to charity. He didn't because he is like most of us, not that rich. Ellen needs to retire. Looks like she has made it a profession. We do not need professional politicians.
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Most of us don't love him and will work hard to get someone who cares, like Ellen Corbett, to replace him.
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Enough already. Most of us love him and he's coming back.
Get used to it; get over it.
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Just another lie from the flip flopping Congressman. Can't wait to vote him out of office. He's making it easier to win for Ellen Corbett. This Swalwell is a disaster, making mistake after mistake. Give the money back like you said you would you bullshitter. Don't pretend you care. If you cared you wouldn't have cut off benefits for 1.7 million middle and lower class Americans including 200,000 veterans. Vote Ellen Corbett in 2014. She cares about those of us who are hurting!
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